Last chance to preserve old Tiddlyspot sites

posted by simon on Sunday, September 25, 2022

I'm planning to pull the plug on old Tiddlyspot sites that have not been accessed, (even once), since Tiddlyhost started serving them around April 2021. So if you had an old old Tiddlyspot site that you want to keep, try to remember its name and make sure to visit it at least once before the cut off date.

I'll aim to answer some potential FAQs below:

When is the cut-off date?

The exact date is yet to be determined, but I'm thinking Halloween 2022 or thereabouts. Let's say 11:59:59 pm on October 31st.

What will happen to my old Tiddlyspot site that has not been accessed at least once since April 2021?

It will be gone forever.

How can I save it?

Remember its name and visit it at least once before the cut-off date. (The url is, as per usual, http://<sitename>.tiddlyspot.com/).

Do I need a Tiddlyhost account?

No. Just you or anyone visiting the site once is enough to keep it alive.

Do I need to "claim" the site with my Tiddlyhost account?

No, but you're welcome to do that, and there are some advantages such as being able to change the password, and being able to make it appear in the Tiddlyhost Hub.

How many old sites are there?

There were a total of 100607 Tiddlyspot sites created, from June 2006 to October 2020.

How many are still alive?

At present around 11% of them are still active, i.e. they have been viewed at least once since April 2021, and will continue to exist past the cut-off date. (To make sure your site is in the active list make sure you've visited it at least once since April 2021.)

What if I can't remember my site's name but I want to keep it alive?

Send me an email and I'll see if I can help.

Can I request an extension to the cut-off date?

I guess so. Why do you need it? How long?

What if my old site is alive but I want to kill it?

There's no way to do that currently, but Issue #157 aims to address that. It would require that you first "claim" the site with your Tiddlyhost account, but I'm considering other options for this.

Can I import my old Tiddlyspot site into a new Tiddlyhost site?

You can. I'll write some guidance on how to do that soon.

Why?

Firstly, there's a bunch of code in Tiddlyhost dedicated to retrieving old sites' content from its location, detecting the old username and password, and making it all work through Tiddlyhost. I'd like to remove it to reduce complexity and maintainence effort.

Secondly, the storage for the roughly 125 GB of old Tiddlyspot data incurrs a monthly bill that I'd like to stop paying, especially since its only reason for existing is the in case someone wants to view one of the Tiddlyspot sites that have been ignored or abandoned since at least April 2021. (Sites that have been viewed at least once get migrated to Tiddlyhost's primary storage, so they don't need to be kept in the old storage either.)

Actually what is Tiddlyspot?

It was the predecessor to Tiddlyhost, created back in 2006. It shut down in 2020 but its content was rescued (long story) and is now served by the Tiddlyhost server.

Is there any impact on Tiddlyhost sites?

No. This is only related to Tiddlyspot sites created between 2006 and 2020, i.e. before Tiddlyhost existed.

What's new

posted by simon on Monday, July 25, 2022

 I just posted a journal entry here. Take a look if you want to see what's new and what's coming soon for Tiddlyhost.

What's new since March

posted by simon on Thursday, December 16, 2021

I haven't been posting much here, but there are some notes in the Journal, and there's always the issue list and the git history if you want the nitty-gritty.

Looking back it's mostly been minor usability features and bug fixes.

The release of TW 5.2.0 was a good milestone I think, because it means that Tiddlyhost now works with an off-the-shelf standard TiddlyWiki. Prior to that we used a random prerelease version that had the small tweak needed to make the upload saver work out of the box.

I am working on subscriptions. Currently (in my local dev environment) I can bill a user for a monthly subscription, but I still need to work on the UI around that, i.e. to make sure the user can see their subscription, cancel if if they want, upgrade it, etc. It's slow going, because there's quite a lot to do, and perhaps also because slightly less fun than adding cool features and improving the UX.

Ps, it's coming up to the 12 month anniversary of the birth of Tiddlyhost. How should I mark the occasion? Perhaps the go live date is more significant, or the official launch.

Pps, I did also revise the text on tiddlyspot.com, added a TL;DR there, and created some more FAQs just now.

Tiddlyspot "save to web" is back!

posted by simon on Sunday, March 28, 2021

I'm pleased to announce that the "save to web" functionality has been restored.

It's new and there might be bugs, but it seems to be working well for me at least. Try it and let me know if you have problems.

The way it works is that Tiddlyhost has taken over the tiddlyspot.com domain name and now serves all the old Tiddlyspot sites, with the UploadPlugin based "save to web" support just like the old days.

Tiddlyspot saving requires just the upload password. It doesn't require a Tiddlyhost account or current login, but if you do have a Tiddlyhost account you can claim ownership of a Tiddlyspot site, which lets you see it in your sites list, and (in future) will let you do things like change the password, and some other stuff I won't mention just yet.

This means the old tiddlyspot is finally resting peacefully, a few months short of its 15th birthday. The torch is passed. :)

Some good news for Tiddlyspot site owners

posted by simon on Saturday, March 13, 2021

I've got some ideas on how to bring Tiddlyspot back to life. Stay tuned for details.

Thoughts on novelty TLDs

posted by simon on Saturday, March 13, 2021

Are they worthwhile? For example tiddlyho.st appears to be available for $69.99 per year. Good value or nah? Someone has tiddly.wiki, but tid.wiki is available. What are your thoughts on this?

Announcing Tiddlyhost.com

posted by simon on Friday, February 19, 2021

I'm pleased to announce the launch of Tiddlyhost!

Tiddlyhost is the successor to Tiddlyspot. I've been working hard to create it and I'm really happy with the progress. It's pretty new, and still in development, but I feel like it's ready for some kind of launch.

Unlike Tiddlyspot, Tiddlyhost:
  • Is secure. All requests are via https with a proper SSL certificate.
  • Has a password recovery mechanism. If you forget your password you can request a password reset email.
  • Supports TiddlyWiki5. TiddlyWiki5 is turning 10 years old this year. It's mature, powerful, and available on Tiddlyhost.
  • Is fully open source. If you want to suggest ideas, contribute improvements, create your own Tiddlyhost, or just follow the development process, you can do it on Github.
  • Let's you share and discover TiddlyWiki sites. The "Tiddlyhost Hub" is a place where you can discover interesting Tiddlyhost sites and also share your own.
If that sounds good, please sign up at tiddlyhost.com and give it a try.

If you have suggestions or experience any problems, please create an issue here. See also the code and the FAQ.

A few notes:
  • As mentioned, Tiddlyhost is new and in development. I can't guarantee there won't be problems. It would be wise to download your site once in a while just in case something goes terribly wrong and your data gets lost.
  • Please be nice. For example don't upload your entire photo collection, or generate a ton of spammy content.

-Simon

Sites with hyphens in their names are recoverable now

posted by simon on Wednesday, November 04, 2020

Sorry about that.